Performing the Drawing-in Maneuver or Bracing Can Do What?

Thread: So the "Brace" Maneuver does not specify willing motility.

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    Default And then the "Brace" Maneuver does not specify willing movement.

    So the "Caryatid" maneuver introduced in Tasha's Cauldron of All the Things read as follows:

    "When a creature you tin can see moves into the reach you have with the melee weapon you're wielding, you tin use your reaction to expend 1 superiority die and brand one set on against the animate being, using that weapon. If the attack hits, add the superiority die to the weapon's damage roll."


    Naturally yous could accept advantage of this by having an ally shove the bad guy into your weapon, simply an interesting thing about this is that yous can trigger this yourself on your ain turn with something similar the Swarmkeeper ability.
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    Default Re: And then the "Caryatid" Maneuver does not specify willing movement.

    Quote Originally Posted by Damon_Tor View Post

    Then the "Brace" maneuver introduced in Tasha's Cauldron of All the Things read as follows:

    "When a creature you lot can run into moves into the reach y'all have with the melee weapon you're wielding, you tin apply your reaction to expend 1 superiority die and make i attack against the beast, using that weapon. If the assault hits, add the superiority dice to the weapon's damage roll."

    Naturally you could take reward of this by having an marry shove the bad guy into your weapon, but an interesting matter about this is that you can trigger this yourself on your own plough with something like the Swarmkeeper power.

    Or Battle Main with Magic Initiate or some such with Lightning Lure or Thorn Whip. Nice catch!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arkhios View Post

    Or Battle Primary with Magic Initiate or some such with Lightning Lure or Thorn Whip. Nice grab!

    This could exist nice on a Bladesinger 6/Battle Principal iii. Apply the Pushing Attack Maneuver to your attack, and so Lightning Lure them back, and employ Brace to arrive a 3rd attack yous weren't fifty-fifty supposed to get.

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    Default Re: So the "Brace" Maneuver does not specify willing movement.

    Quote Originally Posted by Damon_Tor View Post

    This could be overnice on a Bladesinger vi/Battle Primary 3. Apply the Pushing Attack Maneuver to your assail, and then Lightning Lure them dorsum, and use Brace to get in a 3rd attack you weren't fifty-fifty supposed to go.

    Wow this is a pretty skilful combo, maybe you can do this with BM + crusher say with a bully maul, you hit with crusher button him back 5 anxiety, lunge attack and crusher him to yous 5 anxiety and use brace as a reaction.

    If you have third attack you can crusher it again and button it 5 anxiety away over again. Haha

    Edit: with bugbear you can practice this without even using lunge set on.

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    Default Re: So the "Caryatid" Maneuver does not specify willing motion.

    Bladesinger/Battle Master
    i. Starting time a plough where an enemy is inside x feet of a Bonfire you cast final turn (or any hazard you're running).
    two. Quick Toss to catch the guy in a net
    iii. Set on activity, Lightning Lure enemy into Bonfire in place of your kickoff attack
    4. Brace Maneuver for a reaction attack
    5. 2d Attack, Trip Attack Maneuver
    6. Action surge
    seven. Attack action, Booming Blade with Disarm Maneuver (particularly if he has a slashing weapon, utilise particular interaction to kick it away)
    8. Another attack with Menacing Attack Maneuver

    So now he's restrained, afraid, threatened by booming blade, disarmed and prone in a bonfire. He can't hands cut himself out of the internet because y'all disarmed him. His strength check to gratis himself from the net is at disadvantage because of the fear. And fifty-fifty if he gets out of the cyberspace and stands upwardly he will have used upwards his action and half his movement doing it, will take the extra booming blade damage for moving, and next round you are simply going to put him right back in the fire anyway so all he gets for his trouble is the actress booming blade impairment.


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    Default Re: So the "Brace" Maneuver does not specify willing movement.

    I don't think this works. "A animal ... moves" implies its using its own movement.

    When they intend forced movement to apply, they utilise "enters" by itself (e.yard., moonbeam and compare to fasten growth).

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    Default Re: So the "Brace" Maneuver does not specify willing move.

    Quote Originally Posted by LtPowers View Post

    I don't think this works. "A fauna ... moves" implies its using its ain movement.

    When they intend forced movement to apply, they utilize "enters" by itself (e.k., moonbeam and compare to spike growth).

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    That's my agreement besides. "Brute moves" is curt for "spends movement as office of a plow or reaction." And so dissonant whispers would piece of work, as would fear. But not dragging, shoving, or other such things.

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    Default Re: And so the "Brace" Maneuver does non specify willing movement.

    Quote Originally Posted by LtPowers View Post

    I don't think this works. "A fauna ... moves" implies its using its ain movement.

    When they intend forced movement to employ, they apply "enters" by itself (east.grand., moonbeam and compare to fasten growth).

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    The verb "move" doesn't imply anything most who is moving it, and the idea that the 2 phrases are used consistently in this way across 5e is but incorrect. Bonfire says "moves" not "enters" merely nobody argues that pushing someone into a bonfire doesn't burn down them. And booming blade specifically mentions that the target has to "move willingly" to accept the actress damage, something which wouldn't be needed if for some reason that was already implied by the utilise of the verb "move" instead of "enters".

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    Default Re: And then the "Brace" Maneuver does not specify willing movement.

    Quote Originally Posted by Damon_Tor View Post

    And booming bract specifically mentions that the target has to "motility willingly" to take the actress damage, something which wouldn't be needed if for some reason that was already implied past the employ of the verb "move" instead of "enters".

    There'south a subtle distinction there; move that uses the creature's movement is normally, but not necessarily, "willing" movement.

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